Thursday, July 4, 2013

Happy 4th of July!


41 comments:

Anonymous said...

How is this relevant to Iran?

Anonymous said...

This is indeed also a very good for the entire middle east; the islamic filth was washed away from the streets of Egypt; this is the end of the political Islam ....

Anonymous said...

Not until Iran rules in the region. Political Islam is indeed a great part of Khomeini's legacy and it seems that his doctrine is working in Iran. So, your ill wish has not yet come true. US won't be able to stage another coup in Iran like it did in Egypt. So, no light at the end of the tunnel for you dude!

Anonymous said...

Ha ha Assad who gets Billions from Iran says that political Islam is defeated - ha ha ... Yes !!
Syria's Assad says political Islam being defeated in Egypt

http://news.yahoo.com/syrias-assad-says-political-islam-being-defeated-egypt-202142797.html;_ylt=A2KJ2PZIftVRkGAAThzQtDMD

Anonymous said...

@anon 9:20 am

This anon 7.15 has issues of his own. The kind of hatred he keeps showing is a projection of his loser life and so he blames Iran and its system and the revolution and that his parents went on welfare in the US (still are) and he was raised as... bla bla bla.


Just ignore like the rest of us.

Anonymous said...

Maybe he's moving all the dishonesty posters who praise iran from their comfortable US homes?

Yossarian said...

Happy Birthday to the surveillance state!

Anonymous said...

Well said

Anonymous said...

Its for all those royalist exiles[traitors] who are now americans,tho not by choice mind you,because iran would no longer have them so where else could they go but to america

Anonymous said...

AnonymousJuly 4, 2013 at 7:15 AM

Although I entirely agree that this ouster is indeed very good news for the region, not only because it is a blow to the anti-secularist block in the middle-east, but also because the immense majority of the 22 million opponents that led to that event are as much opposed to the Mubarak's era. A quick look at widespread video coverage of the events show a very diversified socio-professional spectrum, from military men to policemen, workers and veiled women chanting victory literally side by side with their uncovered female comrades. Have a look here, a video without comment is worth a thousand words : http://rt.com/in-motion/egypt-celebration-fireworks-tahrir-639/

And just so you know, our joy of this ouster is shared entirely by Bashar Al Assad, although embattled in his authoritarian rule, but still a secularist, tolerant, non-sectarian ruler being de-facto a sworn enemy of the Muslim Brotherhood and its horde of fundamentalist guerrillas trying to hijack the revolution in Syria just like their Shiite equivalent did in Iran, except this time they have full western support through Sunni monarchies' proxies to do their dirty, organ-eating and beheading-ridden practices. Shades of grey my friend, shades of grey, always. Morsi going down does absolutely not mean all your enemies in the ME will fall or mourn this Coup, or your western idols praising the day. The former president was nearly as close to US interests in the ME as Mubarak was. He carefully kept his distance with Iran and clamped down on Gazan tunnel even harder than his predecessor in the end, while tightening its alliances with GCC "Sheikhdoms". Now Washington has gained experience from the recent past and quietly, wisely gave the green light for the military to do whatever was needed to cool the whole situation down. 4 million people in the streets kind of helps taking such pragmatic decisions.

-Abtin

Anonymous said...

Hezbollah is dying for Assad while Assad saying that their islamic cause (political Islam) is idiotic - now, who is the loser ? Ha ha ha ...

Anonymous said...

PS : to AnonymousJuly 4, 2013 at 9:20 AM,

I won't spare a second of my time trying to challenge why you're totally wrong on Khomneini's legacy's viability as a functioning system of government, but I'll simply advise you to hold your breath would the IR not change its current course on its atomic program, which it unfortunatly seems to be doing so far beyond nice conciliatory speeches of dialogue we hear from Rouhani. Deeds have to follow words, and fast, otherwise our contemporary fascist Bibi and its Congress lackeys will finally have a case. Nuclear threshold and all, you know...

-A

Anonymous said...

Well that would be only logical, since one of his staunchest political opponents in the region , and among those calling from arming its salafist enemies just lost both its legitimacy and post. Why wouldn't he be as happy as you are, if not more ? the rest is just raw and tasteless geopolitics, ideology and types of government comes second in this calculus when you're a regional player. The rationale for Assad is not whether a type of individual sharing a political leadership close to that of Shiite Iran has gone, he couldn't care less. He'd rather keen on scoring his point now that a Muslim Brotherhood niche of power just took a major, quite majestic blow. It's a win-win situation for the likes of me both opposing a mass murdering criminal such as Assad, AND muslim fundamentalist disease such as Morsi or Khamenei (along with their foreign sponsors). They all seem to have lost their comfort in the rule, and I love that way. Kudos to the Egyptian people ! you're a great example to follow, not a year + 1 day had past that they already rose en mass to overthrow an opportunistic charlatan... if only we could have witnessed the same in Iran... I guess USA/USSR/Europe/Arab League supported Saddam didn't let us time to do so...

-Abtin

Anonymous said...

Clearly Assad wants to leave tha Axis of Reaction and form an Alliance with Elbaradei (Secular Nationalist Arab); that was the former ideology of Bath Party anyway; in the meantime Hezbollah dies and Iran pays ...

Anonymous said...

Agree ...

Anonymous said...

where are you posting from 11:25?

Anonymous said...

Political Islam of wahabism and salafism supported by the USA and UK is being defeated, resistance forces of Hezbollah and Syria continue.

Anonymous said...

Political Islam of wahabism and salafism supported by the USA and UK is being defeated, resistance forces of Hezbollah and Syria continue.

Anonymous said...

Is it possible to change the program on this website So that we can see from what country everyone posts?

I Know Mark is in the United States but it would be interesting to see where the commenters post from.

Overall though it's very sad to see the dishonesty in iranians who lie to themselves more than they lie to others!

Nader Uskowi said...

Anon 11:25 AM: Dream on!

mat said...

Happy for Americans but sad for the rest of those who have been simply killed across the globe since the atomic bombing in Hiroshima and Nagasaki of Japan in 1945.

Anonymous said...

How is that dreaming? It is stating, at least to me, the obvious; still it is a statement which might be true or false, but it is not dreaming.

Anonymous said...

-A

It looks like so far Bibi has not been able to do a darn thing. Let's see what the future brings about. It is too soon to speculate.
The reason why you don't have a second to challenge my argument on Khomeini's doctrine, is probably that you do not have an answer to it. Let's say Iran backs off on her nuclear program, how does then Khomeini's legacy work? Or, not work as you suggest.

Anonymous said...

Showing your true fascist colors. Anyways, if you had little idea how things work in Iran you would've known that we need to see this website via VPNs which makes you appear in a different country and encrypt your data so that you can circumvent filtering in Iran. So, right now, I am posting from northern Tehran but my VPN will show me as contacting this website from Paris, Luxembourg, or Los Angeles (for China). I usually post from the US but now that I am in Iran, it differs from where I am posting. Nonetheless, it shows your simplistic understanding of how political and cultural analysis works, besides the fact that you have shown your true fascist colors. Mark, for example, post from the US but knows way more than most of the people who live in Iran, about the country, economically, politically, and definitely he is an authority in world military.

Anonymous said...

Indeed he hasn't, and he can't. Alone. That's why I referred to his "big friend over there", the american elephant in the room against which, on the long run, the Iranian military apparatus unfortunately do anything but resist, inflict losses, even big ones, but starve and die in the process itself, and go back 40 years in terms of infrastructure and industry... Iraq style. It will take the USN/USAF more than a bleeding nose and a much greater cost, but it can do it, don't delude yourself in thinking otherwise. The only saving grace is the very poor state of their economy and current standing in the ME, nothing else. And these thing usually change for the better and the worse, usually.

About your joke of a government, yes I actually have many answers, they would start with mass executions of political opponents in 1982 and 1988, regular hangings in the streets of Tehran, or occasional mutilation in the hand of clerics stooges for "unholy" practices, a terribly unequal wealth distribution, widespread corruption, suppression of the press and even their own political figures questioning the system even lightly, total lack of accountability for billions of oil revenue lost every year, massive unemployment, absence of the right to form unions for workers who often have to work without a pay for months, accept their fate or get imprisoned if they ever protest, varying degrees of poverty for roughly half of the population years before the sanctions ever came to fruition, total lack of agricultural progress in 30 years, lands being exploited at less than 10% of their potential because of a conscious willingness from government-affiliated importers preferring to keep the country dependent on foreign supply and gather taxes while moving goods inside the country, same for the vital oil and gas industry they're pathetically trying to rush since a couple years ago now that they've got their back to the wall, making the worst kind of discounts and shared exploitation deals with India and China since they are running out of option to sell it and extract by the day.


How about that for a start ? You want more, try me. Bashing the Islamist regime is piece of cake for anyone having access to official data and going back and forth to Iran. People usually get me VERY wrong thinking I have the smallest once of sympathy towards the regime itself when I defend Iran's legitimate rights as a COUNTRY and its integrity as such.

Never get me wrong in this, I'm not even Muslim, barely a believer. Some people must really be starting to hate me there.

And this has absolutely nothing to do with the nuclear issue which is a geopolitical one. I distinguish that and internal politics. I can support Iran has an independent country with rights as I told you on one hand, and totally oppose its government policy against its own people on the other, those are not incompatible since they do not apply to the same dimensions of a State.


-Abtin

Anonymous said...

Anon 11:25 AM....You show your Oghdeh very clearly :o)

I can prove to you that all the Aghazadehs are lording it on Iran's expense in Orange County USA.
Their women dye their hair blonde and wear short skirts.While back in Iran these very same hypocrites force Iranian women to wear the hijab and chador or monto in the middle of summer.You must be one of those hypocrites living in the West.

Anonymous said...

Khomeini's legacy was as a hateful liar,back stabber,killer and a hatred of everything Iranian.

Anonymous said...

Anon 11:57...I agree man.

Anon 2:15 PM...I'm sure they will continue to resist in hell.

Anonymous said...

Anon 2:15...But Anon 11:43 Am has a valid point by saying that Hezbollah is dying for Assad while he claims that political Islam is dead.
Maybe Assad knows the game is over. Because he knows in the long run Islamic regime and Hezbollah can't possibly defeat over 80% of Syrian population armed against him.You should chill out man and except the emerging realities.

Anonymous said...

@Abtin
Not so fast dude! Don't congratulate yourself on bashing Iran's government. That was perhaps the longest irrelevant response I had to go through. Well, let's take all you have said about Iran at face value — much more can be said about the US (and this is not to deflect the issue from Iran, but it is too put things in a comparative perspective, as politics does not happen in isolation): High number of executions; more African Americans in prison than ever; gun control and mass shootings; biggest debtor of the world; gitmo; spying on European allies; and so on and so forth. Does that list mean that the government is not working? Deficiencies of a government and its shortcomings indeed affects the quality of life for its citizens but that doesn't mean it is not working. Khomeini's legacy, that is the political Islam, has been running a country as big as Iran for the past 30 years and yet under "crippling" sanctions everyday there is a growth somewhere, there is a blossoming. So, self-congratulatory skills in bashing governments does not bring you any credit as a political analyst. It just shows how off-track you are in grasping what the points being made are.

Nader Uskowi said...

@12:59,
I accept your criticism. Instead of using the word dream, I should have used delusion. It’s indeed delusional to describe a highly successful Iranian-American community in the U.S., with its many ties to its original motherland, as “traitors.” You yourself must be living in a parallel universe.

Anonymous said...

Only thing "blossoming" in Iran is the IRGC and Aghazadehs bank balances abroad.

Anonymous said...

Anon 6:17 AM

You understood my tone backwards dude, cool it down : I actually said the opposite : anyone with an ounce of intellectual capacity would have no difficulties whatsoever demonstrating how flawed and catastrophic is Khamenei's system of government through the many obvious examples of mass repression and internal aberrations in wealth diversion, obfuscation and distribution is has led to, not to mention intervention in people's private life, but I could care less if they could provide a decent degree of welfare in return , which they never did. Now I'm afraid I can only spare so much time to go into details when there is widely available open source documentation to support my thesis, including the Statistical Center of Iran itself that got its chairman detained several times for making the true economic figure of Iran look bad. How about that for a functioning, solid and above all confident government.

There is nothing blossoming in today's Iran outside of the "Gobblesian" propaganda circles of the Islamic Republic. A nation merely claiming daily progress and the sudden and magical creation of millions of job overnight indeed doesn't make it true on the ground for normal people, a category which you do not seem to belong to.

And unlucky for you, you simply don't know me, and my USA-skeptic record in this blog , and I can't blame you since I only started to sign my post recently.

Now what is the relevancy of quoting me America's failures ? I can do it better and even go further if you want, I have absolutely no problem with it. Is it supposed to make me mad or reconsider my position that mass killings and imprisonment of political opponents is of any less gravity ? I for one, have never defended any of America's action towards Iran since 1953, nor do I consider it as any better than any western government of the same league. Technically their former and current presidents are both war criminals. The world 1st economic power and yet unable to feed 1 out of 6 of its citizens correctly while spending more on their military the dozens of country combined. Not to mention racism, police repression, quasi non-existent gun control etc... yes their economy has never been in such a dire situation for decades, and it will take them many years to move away from that.

But does it kill a couple hundred of its citizen every time they take to the streets protesting some policy ? have they felt the need to execute tens of thousands in the 80s to maintain they hold on power ? Do they pack dissidents infamous camps such as ? in its worst day, the United States is not even close to the Islamic Republic of Iran when it comes to blood spilled of its own citizen. The fact that they support dictatorship, terror and horror outside of their borders is raw and heartless geopolitics as I said before. Iran does exactly the same as we speak. We're talking internal politics human rights record.

Have a look at how the car industry is doing to give you a taste of what growth really looks like in the country, once the pride of the Nation. Or agriculture, or commerce, or inflation, or ludicrously disadvantageous Oil and Gas deals with India and China, with revenues less than 50% their 2012 value. All sensors green there too I guess !

The only thing standing between the Iranian people and a full uprising is fear of mass repression and some form of understandable resignation since the last time they tried to overthrow their government, it didn't exactly work for the better... and a significant part of the population wants to see if that election finally comes with some, even minor improvement on their condition, I concede. But this hope won't last long if Khamenei, never elected but holding the last word on every issue, keeps his current mindset.

If Saddam hadn't happened, Khomeini's government would have been history in a year, just like Morsi's in Egypt now.


-Abtin

Anonymous said...

@Abtin

Another rand! Yes, very critical of the US but you fail to acknowledge that having one's hands in the blood of other countries' citizens is not any less of a crime than executing your own's. Thus you forget to mention that the US is the biggest warmongering machine, the only country using nuclear bomb, etc. This is not to make your angry! Why would I think you'd care. It is, as I said before, to put things in a comparative perspective. In order to see if Iran's figures are correct or not, as it seems that you won't even accept IMF's statistics, we just need to wait a bit and see what will happen in the near future under "crippling" sanctions.
The difference between Morsi and Khomeini is that Morsi was not more than a puppet. He closed the Syrian embassy and left open the Zionist's open. That is why Khomeini's legacy, and his political Islam is viable today and it has functioned during the past thirty and something years. I know a lot of people like you dude! Those who used to say from day 1 of the Iranian Revolution, "Wait! You'll see! 'They' are going to leave in the next 6 months." Well, now it has been 34 years and not only "they" are not gone, comparing "them" with the liberal Mubarak who came into power almost at the same time shows how functional Khomeini's legacy and his government has been.

Anonymous said...

*"rant"

Anonymous said...

You're truly helpless man.I do acknowledge their countless past and ongoing crimes against the rest of the world including Iran, and a typical small-time, hypocritical propagandist distorting my every word to gain some higher ground while failing himself to acknowledge that a foreign country's crime , no matter how massive and grave, will never justify another spilling blood of its own people on its own soil, is not going to be the one to actually have the slightest chance of shaking the peace of mind I have in bashing and denoucing it.

Oh btw, i don't consider being viewed positively by an entity such as the IMF that has maintained so many developing countries under economic restraint and dependancy through state debt, and import-export control plus deregulation of internal management, as an element of pride.

Just so you know, Ben Ali in Tunisia and both Mubarak and Morsi in Egypt were considered top of their class by their IMF big brothers. That further shows how harshly neo-liberalistic and anti-social their policies are, while they claim being so much adept at enforcing social justice and anti-western capitalism. and since you thought genious it was to point that to my face thinking you were going to score a point is the latest proof of the kind of local priviledged bourgeoisie you belong to and the utter detachement it implies from reality in Iran for the struggling average citizen... no wonder how insulting your fantasmatic and delusional depiction of Iran must seem to the tens of millions of people suffering from extreme poverty in the country, and this way before any crippling sanctions hit Iran.

This put aside , I find it interesting that you have a good day reminding the IMF finds our economy brilliant, while the Statistic Center of Iran itself got its boss detained and its figures arbitrarily amended for showing too bad a picture of the dire situation there. Maybe he is an infiltrated zionist too lol.

Iranians were by far the very first people to revolt against a depostic rule in the ME. The resulting consequences were catastrophic and it is only logical there is still lots of skepicism towards dying another turn for nothing. No wonder Egyptians saw that coming in their own country , using that sad experience we had to come en masse in the streets and prevent Morsi from hijacking their legitimate revolution, unlike us with Khomeini. I prefer look for internal, profressive ways of change rather than an all-out uprising we know nothing of the immediate implication, and not out of love for the regime, obviously. It has nothing to do with KHamenei's prowess.

-A

Anonymous said...

The cannibals and wahabis of the fsa, as well as their masters in the zionist entity surely have a special place in hell reserved for them.

Anonymous said...

"80%" that you pulled out your arse. More like 80% foreigners, not even Syrians. Maybe wahabis and cannibals with their al qaeda comrades know that the game is over and normal Syrian people do not support them.

Anonymous said...

May be a word or two to stupify the meaning of "4th of July" to the World for the American part of the readership!

The 4th of July is as important to people outside of the US as is "Nime Shaaban" outside of Iran. (Nime What ??)

I live in Europe and couldn't give a toss about the 4th of July.

Anonymous said...

The same place in hell is resevered for them as the Shiit killers of woman and children.

Anonymous said...

Unbelievable how much intolerance and hate goes on here!