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Monday, July 22, 2013

Rafsanjani: Iran Can’t Stay Angry with the World


Ayatollah Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani said today in Tehran that the nation could no longer remain “angry with the world.” Iran’s influential elder statement made the remarks during a meeting with a group of teachers. (hashemirafsanjani.ir)

Rafsanjani in the past has accused President Ahmadinejad of isolating Iran internationally by his combative and often angry style. Rafsanjani’s ally Hassan Rouhani won a landslide victory in June 14 presidential election after campaigning to bring moderation back to Iranian politics and its foreign policy.

File photo: Ayatollah Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani (R) with Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. (Leader.ir/ISNA)

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  1. No...But I bet the world is gonna stay angry at Iran, no matter what these knuckleheads do. :D

    Too little, too late. ;)

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    1. CORRECTION: Not the world, but US/Zionists and EU poodles only!

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    2. That is the part of the world that maters. The rest are backward nations.
      Russia and China are taking the Mullahs for a ride.

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    3. Anon 12:31 PM, demonstrating the racist, supremacist attitude of zionists and their poodles.

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    4. You can call it whatever you want. It doesn't change the facts. Rather be stamped that, and live in one of those countries, than living there (like some of the comentators here), taking advantage of these countries have to offer and support your Islamic masters.

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    5. Yes, it does not change the facts that the zionist regime and its servants the USA and EU are not the whole world, as well as zionists being racists who hate non-white peoples.

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    6. AnonymousJuly 23, 2013 at 7:12 PM
      No.he`s just suffering from a rather bad case of westoxication

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    7. Anon 8:49 PM, good one. It seems that a lot of anti-Iran people suffer from that.

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    8. Very proud of suffering from "westoxication" instead of belonging to a 1400 old backward religion and fundamentalist ideology.
      Your beloved militant Islamist ideology will meet the same fate as Communism in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. The superiority of the Western Political system (Although not the most ideal political system, as there is no such a thing) to any other current form of Government is clear to any educated person.
      I assume you have not set foot in Russia or China. In the unlikely event of these two countries replacing US and Europe in a near future (Although I am pleased about their rise in power, as a multipolar world order is a much better, balanced place) you will live to regret it, if you are a student of history and know something about the expansionist / imperialist ambitions of these two countries, without the existence of any moderating forces as in mainly Europe and to a lesser extent in the US

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    9. Anon 4:54 AM, "a 1400 old backward religion" is just another one of many backward religions of the region and world. Unfortunately for you, the USA and its zionist masters do not share your view of "militant Islamist ideology". It is in fact, beloved by them with all the support they are giving to Islamic militants in Libya and Syria.

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    10. Thank you for your comment. I totally agree with your post.
      (The fundamentalist view goes for the Ortodox Jews in Israel and the rest of the world and the Right Christian movement / Tea party members in the US as well)
      The US has made a mess in trying to replace a secular force like Assad, with these backward killers. I am glad to see the Russians are not letting the Americans to do the same thing in Syria as they did in Lybia.
      Assad's father tried to negotiate with the Americans and the Israelis. Golan heights has been occupied illegally by Israel and giving it back to the legitimate owners (Syria) would end the conflict with them. (Will not happen because of the nature of the expansionists successive Israeli governments)
      When it comes to the original subject of this post, then I do agree with Rafsanjani. A country's national interests are best served by constructive diplomacy and trying to achieve a win-win situation.
      I would again urge those who are demonising the west and have the romantic picture of a better world when and if the Russians and the Chinese one day will be replacing the Europeans and the Americans, to be careful what they wish for. There are still some check and balances (although absolutely not perfect)in these countries, that is holding their politicians (to a much lesser extent in the US, than Europe) answerable. Can anyone honestly say this about Putin's Russia or the Communist party of China? Can any honest, well informed Iranian say that the IRI is not being taken advantage of by the Russians and the Chinese due to Iranian corruption and stupid foreign policy of Ahmadinejad for the past 8 years. Bushehr and the Oil money held in China (by the admission of majlis deputies) just one example.
      Westoxication? No. Choosing the lesser devil, Yes.

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  2. It appears some people are irreconcilable with the present government of iran to the point of even denying their obvious achievement. I accept the fact that everybody is free to have their different opinion, but the view we express says a lot about are state of mind.

    The government of iran has its up and down just like every other government constituted by human being. Let's face it and make the effort of people like uskowi worthwhile with fact based comments.

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  3. I dont know how many times people need to be reminded of this simple little fact:the us and its lick spittles are not the "world",how ever much they may like to think so

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  4. In foreign policy Khamanei is now castrated; he lost in Syria, Egypt and the game in the Middle east in general; in the new middle every one agrees east that the political Islam is the enemy; that is exactly my point of view also; so, in foreign policy we crossed the point of no return for good: total shipwreck for Khamenei; the time of/for islamic zombi-ism is over; the good news is that line between outside and inside is always fluid; who will be the operator (of the castration of Islam) inside? At the end the nature will take care of it; but we need a political operator and I do not see that yet ...

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    1. "political Islam is the enemy"? Unfortunately for you, the USA and its puppets Turkey and certain Arab states do not agree. They are openly supporting political Islam to destroy and take over Arab countries.

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    2. The same with IRan; political Islam was implemented in Iran to destroy IRan; but you are right, part of what I write reflect (only) my hope; I can not predict the future ...

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    3. The circularity is real; Islamic Republic/political Islam is opposed to Imperialists - it is but also the tool of Imperialist: both at the same time - you have to understand this; but circularity has reached its limit (you saw in egypt).

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    4. You see that is why I am angrily opposed to Khamanei; Khamanei is a lose-lose for IRan; Impersialists want him to continue with his islamic nonsense; that islamic nonsense should overwrite the articulation of national interest of Iran; that is the condition under which he is 'tolerated'; that is his function; Moussavi was a patriot; he is now in jail : you see? But again the time of Islamic (sponsored by imperialists) nonsense is over; the people in egypt knew the situation very well

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    5. No, it is not the same with Iran. The political (wahabi) Islam was never implemented in Iran.

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  5. It is sensible that Iran cannot afford to remain at odd with world powers forever. It is quite understandable that the west has hegemonic intention world over and would not like to see a formidable opponent or any opposing side that can effectively challenge them. With wisdom one can antagonise the west's approach but maintain amicable relationship with them. After Russia is not all that friendly to the west, but it a big trade partner of Europe and cooperate with US on so many issues.

    Open stubborness invites open hinderances. Iran has the great potentials to be a great nation and an important player in the world affairs, but unfortunately they are the only one stopping themself. China may likely nurse the ambition to bumb US and Taiwan sometimes to come but they will never say it. There is no complete trust between US and China, but since non of them had said it publicly, it is difficult to stand in each other's way.

    Iran leaders have shown high decree of wisdom in the management of their country's affair, but I will seriouly plead with them to show some linence and tacties.

    As Hassan Rouhani rightly said that it pays to have understanding of your enemies and deal with them with maturity, tacties and wisdom rather than shout carelessly and foolishly.

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    1. Anon 4:13AM

      I had read before on this blog, that Rafsanjani said that Iran is not at war with israel..
      When I questioned that statement there was no response from his (Rafsanjani) pretended supporters....

      Your characterization of Rohani's statement, doesn't match his intentions, because he said that "... to understand enemies...(is) in order to foil their plots..."

      If you mean dismantling of the Islamic Republic, because it is the final goal of the West, then you have to make proper calculations (based on Syria resistance), how long it will take to achieve that goal, and how many victims need to be "sacrificed"...

      Recent developments in Egypt, bring a new element to the "western democracy's principles", that translates, that if necessary, it is permissible to correct democracy's outcomes according to the will of certain groups and by military means as well if necessary...

      A-F

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    2. A-F,

      The Iranian people have spoken, voting overwhelmingly for Rouhani, whom this blogger endorsed long before anyone expected his victory. It is time to accept the reality that moderation has triumphed over hardline policies and fundamentalism. That’s what the Iranian people want. Let us both hope the Iranian government can deliver and an era of moderation in internal as well as external politics can begin.

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    3. Uskowi at 9:15AM
      You have stated in the past that one cannot have both ways...

      Your statement that "(you) this blogger endorsed (Rouhani) long before anyone expected his victory is not precise one, because you had made several bets and use them according their outcomes to your benefit.

      First your bet was that the Guardian Council is an illegitimate gang of not elected (mullahs), so it suggested that their endorsments will be illegitimate according your bet.

      Second bet was that the system may manipulate and prevent victory of reformists... so one couls expect disturbances and revolution...

      Third of your apparent bets was that Mr. Rouhani is not with the system of the Islamic Republic, since you had portrayed the Supreme Leadeer, President and other key leaders and the Guardian Council as the irresponsible ones.

      Recently Mr. Rouhani stated that he will respect Supreme Leader's guidance among other rules of the Islamic Republic's system.

      My personal choice in the matter of the Iranian presidential election, was stated by statement that the choice of Iranian nation will be the right and important one...

      A-F

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    4. I still think the Guardian Council is the worst nightmare for Iran, and sooner it is abolished the better. Remember it was Jannati and his gang that disqualified Rafsanjani: a former president, a former acting commander-in-chief of the war with Iraq, a former Majlis speaker, and the current chairman of Expediency Council. If he is not qualified to run, who is? Jannati? The point is that a government body, with members chosen by the leader or other government institutions, should not be in charge of selecting who can run to head the government. That simple! But it must not be simple to you.

      Your points number two and three do not make any sense, literally. Please rephrase it and resubmit, and I'll be more than happy to comment.

      Now about the choice: I have no problem who you chose to vote for. That was you selection, whatever it was, and I respect that. The Iranian people, however, said no to extremism and voted for moderation. Rouhani won more votes that all other seven candidates combined! And he won in Tehran as well as all major cities, small cities and villages.

      The argument made in the last four years by a number of people who consider themselves Iran experts, or "real" friends of Iran, that non-conservatives (non-principlists) could only get the backing of northern upper and upper-middle class Tehrani‘s was wrong four years ago and proved to be wrong last month; all their favorite telephone polls proved to be suspicious as well. The people of Iran overwhelmingly voted to show their discontent with the current situation, rejected eight years of extremism under Ahmadinejad and the fundamentalists, and voted for moderation in internal as well as foreign policies; and I suggest that you respect their will.

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  6. Actually the dimwits at EU and the ignorant rednecks in the US need Iran more now as the recent EU report highlights the Salafi/Wahabbi terrorism and its potential blowback. Iran needs better diplomacy to hone it its role as a stabilizing force and a bulwark against terrorism.

    European Parliament identifies Wahabi and Salafi roots of global terrorism

    It is not merely the faith or oil that flows out of Saudi Arabia and the Persian Gulf Sheikhdoms. The oil-rich Arab state and its neighbours are busy financing Wahabi and Salafi militants across the globe.

    A recent report by the European Parliament reveals how Wahabi and Salafi groups based out of the Middle East are involved in the "support and supply of arms to rebel groups around the world." The report, released in June 2013, was commissioned by European Parliament's Directorate General for External Policies. The report warns about the Wahabi/Salafi organisations and claims that "no country in the Muslim world is safe from their operations ... as they always aim to terrorise their opponents and arouse the admiration of their supporters."

    The nexus between Arab charities promoting Wahabi and Salafi traditions and the extremist Islamic movements has emerged as one of the major threats to people and governments across the globe. From Syria, Mali, Afghanistan and Pakistan to Indonesia in the East, a network of charities is funding militancy and mayhem to coerce Muslims of diverse traditions to conform to the Salafi and Wahabi traditions. The same networks have been equally destructive as they branch out of Muslim countries and attack targets in Europe and North America. So far in the Middle East, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon have borne the brunt of Saudi sponsored Wahabbi terror.

    Despite the overt threats emerging from the oil-rich Arab states, governments across the globe continue to ignore the security imperative and instead are busy exploiting the oil-, and at time times, blood-soaked riches.

    The European Parliament's report though is a rare exception to the rule where in the past the western governments have let the oil executives influence their foreign offices. From the United States to Great Britain, western states have gone to great lengths to ignore the Arab charities financing the radical groups, some of whom have even targeted the West with deadly consequences.

    While the recent report by the European Parliament documents the financial details connecting the Arab charities with extremists elsewhere, it is certainly not the first exposition of its kind. A 2006 report by the US Department of State titled, International Narcotics Control Strategy Report - Money Laundering and Financial Crimes, reported that “Saudi donors and unregulated charities have been a major source of financing to extremist and terrorist groups over the past 25 years.” One of the WikiLeaks documents, a cable from the US Consulate in Lahore also stated that “financial support estimated at nearly 100 million USD annually was making its way to Deobandi and Ahl-e-Hadith clerics in the region from ‘missionary’ and ‘Islamic charitable’ organisations in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates ostensibly with the direct support of those governments.”

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    1. nobody needs Iran and its vile theocracy and you're in no position to call other people dimwits if you think that the EU or US does.

      Iran marginalizes itself by following the ugly, reactionaries teachings of the late and unlamented Ruhollah Khomeini.

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    2. Yes things were so much better under the despotic shah

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    3. Silly child! Iran has been a target of US/Zionist thugs for the past 34 years since they lost "their" Persian gas pump. Try to have your parents buy you a an animated book of Iranian history. It is not Iran that has imposed "sanctions" or frozen hundred of billion dollars worth of assets or launched a vicious destabilization campaign.

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    4. the US doesn't use Iranian oil, silly donkey....... never needed it.....you're confused.

      it was the Brits needed it.

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    5. Anon 4:15.....It's OK now because the mullahs have turned Iran into China's "gas pump".At least before the counter revolution of 1979 Iran was being paid for its oil,unlike today where the Chinese are screwing Iran into the ground.

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    6. Iran is currently a temporary wife for the Chinese

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