tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post51858676537739749..comments2024-03-10T22:24:34.032-04:00Comments on Uskowi on Iran - اسکویی در باره ایران: IRGCN Commander against hotline with USNNader Uskowihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02808543185109048956noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-21643734826810955552011-09-30T23:44:57.900-04:002011-09-30T23:44:57.900-04:00Actually the Kilos are not designed for shallow wa...Actually the Kilos are not designed for shallow water operations. They are far too big to operate in the Gulf for example, where the average depth can be less than the length of the submarine!<br /><br />The Kilos are huge for a diesel submarine, some of the largest SSKs in the world. They are intended for open ocean and sea going operations in the North Atlantic, North Sea and Baltic Sea.<br /><br />The problem for Iran is that its Kilos are based in Bandar Abbas where the waters are very shallow to medium until they head sufficiently south east though Gulf of Oman to the Arabian Sea. That bottleneck would be DEATH in wartime. I imagine the coasts of Oman and the UAE have LFA SONARs placed on the seafloor. From Bandar Abbas to the deep basin of the Arabian Sea is about 200 Nmi, half the Kilo's submerged endurance. But that is if it travels in a strait line, which submarine do not; not because its predictable but they need to clear their baffles and maneuver to conduct TMA tracking and localization on contacts. So they might end up on their patrol station with only 100-150 nmis of "creeping" range to work with, at tactical speeds need not just for attacking but the tracking of fast moving contacts the remaining battery life would be eaten very fast, maybe 20-30 nmi of tactical range. Now they could keep their battery charged up by snorting every day for an hour or so but the moment they fire up those diesels in moderately deep water they run the risk of a US hydrophone array picking them up. As a result the Kilo would be forced to move inshore every couple of days to snort in the coastal traffic where the background noise makes it easier to hide. We have a blue/green water submarine tied to brown water to recharge, this is very bad and could easily lead to an operational casualty or a predictable cycle that could lead to an ambush by a US hunter killer submarine.<br /><br />In addition while the Kilo maybe quiet on batteries Iran's Kilos (as I mentioned before) no longer carry many of their Anechoic tiles as seen in the photos and video from their mission to Djibouti. This means that ships, aircraft and submarines can detect them far easier with active sonar which compounds on the problem that the Kilos have in that department already: their large size makes them easier active sonar targets. Aircraft like the new MH-60R Strikehawk which has both Sonar buoys and a LFA Dipping Sonar would be murder to these boats.TLAM Strikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14323220721559963075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-78892130864844268102011-09-30T22:47:41.030-04:002011-09-30T22:47:41.030-04:00TLAM Strike,
Don't take my word for it. I jus...TLAM Strike,<br /><br />Don't take my word for it. I just told you what I read in the article (I think it was Stratfor). Like I said, the US Navy was tracking one Iranian sub for a while then they lost track of it when it went underwater. Sea Hawk was sent to find that sub, but couldn't locate it. A few days later, the same sub popped up again on the ship's radar several miles from the spot it originally submerged.Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-6533831627884625612011-09-30T17:16:04.647-04:002011-09-30T17:16:04.647-04:00Victor
"NATO called these subs "Black H...Victor<br /><br />"NATO called these subs "Black Hole" for a reason."<br /><br />True NATO did call them Black Hole but don't forget Iran has only three of these submarines and they operate in shallow waters despite its nick name these subs pose no long term threat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-12486135272520977962011-09-30T17:07:20.325-04:002011-09-30T17:07:20.325-04:00Victor
"What forces are they,I don't kno...Victor<br /><br />"What forces are they,I don't know."<br /><br />Didn't you hear it was the forces of witchcraft !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-85004647868565544942011-09-30T16:16:16.181-04:002011-09-30T16:16:16.181-04:00"According to what I read in the military art..."According to what I read in the military article, The USN was keeping track of the Iranian subs, but only if they have resurfaced. Thy will be lucky if they can track and locate them deep below the surface.<br /><br />The NATO called these subs "Black Hole" for a reason." When Poland and Romania joined NATO the US got full access to the Kilo class submarines in their navies. I know USN sailors who have spent time aboard them during war games. It can be assumed that every aspect of the Project 877 class submarine has been compromised to western intelligence services.<br /><br />Iran's Kilo submarines are in fairly bad shape. They have lost most of their Anechoic tiles. meaning they are much nosier and have a higher active sonar footprint now than their foreign equivalents.<br /><br />Also remember that the Kilo's Iran received were not the advanced versions operated by Russia and China or now available for export those are the Project 636 class. The Project 877 class has many out dated systems like the MGK-400 sonar which is a analog system with digital converters capable of automated tracking of only 2 targets and is incapable of conducting proper narrowband (LOFAR) frequency analysis (The current MGK-400EM Digital system can track 12 targets and can perform LOFAR/DEMON analysis on two simultaneously and has double the detection range).TLAM Strikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14323220721559963075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-40473794938459648252011-09-30T16:10:43.044-04:002011-09-30T16:10:43.044-04:00A day will soon come when the IRGCN Commander wil...A day will soon come when the IRGCN Commander will beg the US for the hotline.<br /><br />Cic5ME-AG Desron12Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-65111323030040452242011-09-30T11:39:16.565-04:002011-09-30T11:39:16.565-04:00Falcon,
I've been wondering the same thing. T...Falcon,<br /><br />I've been wondering the same thing. The US regard Iran as the number one threat yet the US seem hesitant to take military action against Iran. There must be some kind of forces that are preventing US from doing something about Iran. What forces are they, I don't know. Only time will tell.Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-42046140898399764692011-09-30T11:24:00.252-04:002011-09-30T11:24:00.252-04:00Therefor all the main Iranian subs the Russian bui...<i>Therefor all the main Iranian subs the Russian built ones a total of three which the US has kept a track on will be sunk in the first day.</i><br /><br />According to what I read in the military article, The USN was keeping track of the Iranian subs, but only if they have resurfaced. Thy will be lucky if they can track and locate them deep below the surface.<br /><br />The NATO called these subs "Black Hole" for a reason.Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-22060193860015401652011-09-30T10:10:25.778-04:002011-09-30T10:10:25.778-04:00I remember these type of people when I used to tal...I remember these type of people when I used to talk to them in street corners in Tehran.<br />They have no logic what so ever and believe what ever their masjed tells them.<br />What has happened now is that the masjed has taken over the country and uses the nations resources to promote their propaganda and twisted views at the nation.<br />Fortunately only a few gullible minority of people believe their hogwash and one such person is their ardent fan which he is constantly promoting their rubbish on Uskowi on Iran.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-70542345496523282462011-09-30T06:38:53.992-04:002011-09-30T06:38:53.992-04:00Anon 8:31 PM
"You're the one talking rub...Anon 8:31 PM<br /><br />"You're the one talking rubbish.Iran does not need to launch missiles at the US ships in the Indian ocean when they can launch them at the nearest targets,the US bases stationed in the Gulf countries."<br /><br />Just listen to yourself you haven't a clue what your saying.<br /><br />You honestly believe the US is going to let a tin pot regime in Tehran get away with their childish antics by launching their primitive missiles at US bases and expect the US not to retaliate ? <br /><br />I repeat again the US navy will be able to anchor their ships a thousand miles away in the Indian ocean to launch their devastating attacks against the Iranian forces on the mainland and the Persian Gulf.<br />By stationing their ships at that distance the IRIAF and the coastal anti ship missiles the boats with their swarm tactics and the use of the mini subs have been rendered useless.<br /><br />All that is left are targets.<br /><br />The large surface ships and the three Russian built submarines will be sunk within 24 hours.<br /><br />Now if that is so hard for you to understand that those are the facts then go and read some books as regards US capability against an unfortunate Iran run by idiotic cretins that deserve to be locked up in a lunatic asylum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-79988697985069324092011-09-30T00:40:03.873-04:002011-09-30T00:40:03.873-04:00----"Iran does not need to launch missiles at...----"Iran does not need to launch missiles at the US ships in the Indian Ocean when they can launch them at the nearest targets, the US bases stationed in the Gulf countries. "----<br /><br /><br />and just how will launching missiles at targets away from the fight help save Iran from getting pounded into rubble?<br /><br />all that would accomplish would be to make sure that Iran got pounded harder and longer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-77097256868809760582011-09-29T22:46:10.309-04:002011-09-29T22:46:10.309-04:00"Also, parking US ships in the Indian Ocean w..."Also, parking US ships in the Indian Ocean would have to be the stupidest move ever. They may be safe from Iranian reach, but with no one to patrol the Strait of Hormuz, Iran would see this as an opportunity to deploy mines across the strait and bring the flow of oil to a halt, thereby spiking oil prices worldwide. By the time the US Navy retake control of the strait, the damage would have already been done."<br /><br />The trick would be to mine the strait before the USN and USAF destroy the entire IRIN/IRGCN. Don't forget that the US has mines too and could blockade Iran's naval bases. Everything in the Iranian military is tracked and placed on a prioritized list for destruction.<br /><br />The US Response to an Iranian attack in the Gulf Region would be something like this...<br />Phase 1 (H Hour): Stealth bombers and Tomahawk missiles would be used to destroy Iranian Air Bases by cratering runways, destroying aircraft shelters and tank farms.<br />Phase 2 (H Hour): tactical aircraft and submarines would mine Iranian Naval bases and sink ships in port.<br />Phase 3 (H Hour to H+3): tactical aircraft would destroy Iranian ships at sea. US SSNs trailing Iranian submarines would neutralize them.<br />Phase 4 (H Hour): USAF assets and shore installations would jam maritime search radars and communications on the Iranian side of the gulf.<br />Phase 5 (H Hour to H+4): USAF bombers would strike C4I installations in Iran.<br />Phase 6 (H Hour +8): with IRIAF bases destroyed AWACS and JSTAR aircraft would operate over the Gulf directing attack helicopters and tactical fighters against IRCGN craft and CDM Batteries threading shipping.<br />Phase 7 (H Hour + 18): With air cover Mine Countermeasures Vessels would clear corridors though the straits for convoys escorted by warships.<br />Phase 8 (D Day +1): Mop up operations would be conducted against remaining Iranian air and naval forces. USAF bombers on their second sortie from CONUS bases would hit Iranian nuclear and WMD facilities. Convoy escorts would continue.TLAM Strikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14323220721559963075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-47242686001902412232011-09-29T22:23:09.746-04:002011-09-29T22:23:09.746-04:00Anon 8:52 PM
Iran hasn't even got some long r...Anon 8:52 PM<br /><br />Iran hasn't even got some long range submarines and you believe those liars will have aircraft carriers ?<br />Grow up man don't believe everything this hidden imam government spews out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-78809812312598316952011-09-29T20:52:50.003-04:002011-09-29T20:52:50.003-04:00Very Soon Iran will have new aircraft carrier and ...Very Soon Iran will have new aircraft carrier and it will be better than all American aircraft carriers go Iran go!<br /><br />http://www.presstv.ir/detail/201620.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-68613536031174852832011-09-29T20:31:53.803-04:002011-09-29T20:31:53.803-04:00Go and read a book before you talk rubbish!
IRGCN...<i>Go and read a book before you talk rubbish!<br /><br />IRGCN midget submarines and missiles wont be able to touch let alone destroy US ships while parked in the Indian Ocean and sad to say giving a pounding to the IRGCN IRIAF !</i><br /><br />You're the one who's talking rubbish. Iran does not need to launch missiles at the US ships in the Indian Ocean when they can launch them at the nearest targets, the US bases stationed in the Gulf countries. <br /><br />Also, parking US ships in the Indian Ocean would have to be the stupidest move ever. They may be safe from Iranian reach, but with no one to patrol the Strait of Hormuz, Iran would see this as an opportunity to deploy mines across the strait and bring the flow of oil to a halt, thereby spiking oil prices worldwide. By the time the US Navy retake control of the strait, the damage would have already been done.<br /><br />P.S. Just so you know I'm not the same person as <b>Anon 1:58 PM</b> that you responded to before.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-5964230295623001592011-09-29T18:28:56.427-04:002011-09-29T18:28:56.427-04:00Iran's military is certainly not in the same l...Iran's military is certainly not in the same league as the US's military. No argument about it, but it does raise a pertinent question: With all the vast firepower the US had at its disposal, why has the US not taken military action against Iran for all these years? The reason I say this is because I've been hearing about the threats of military strike on Iran from the US on so many occasions in the last decade and yet none of them has ever materialized. In that same decade, Iran has been steadily making progress on its nuclear program as if it has been ignoring the US's warning not to pursue this path. Not only that, but they have increased their efforts to disperse their nuclear assets (and decoys as well, see article: <a href="http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=49932" rel="nofollow">Iran Uses Fear of Covert Nuclear Sites to Deter Attack</a>) all across the country which frustrate the U.S. military planners.<br /><br />In retrospect, Dubya had the balls to take action action against Iraq and Afghanistan. Bizarrely, he had the same balls to reject an Israeli request for advanced refueling aircraft that could aid Israel in its mission to strike Iran's nuclear sites. Reason for rejection remain unclear to this day.<br /><br />Looking toward in the future, I don't know what steps the US will take against Iran, but I do know one thing. Iran is getting closer to its nuclear goal and the US's window of opportunity to strike Iran is getting smaller by the day (or maybe that opportunity was gone already).Falconnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-61031035508119001662011-09-29T17:33:28.729-04:002011-09-29T17:33:28.729-04:00Anyone who thinks Iran's navy conventional for...Anyone who thinks Iran's navy conventional forces stand a chance against the US is dreaming. The only weapon Iran has that can threaten the US and Israel are the missiles (an F4 can be shot down, a missile flying at mach 10 is a different story). Iran patriots can give the government credit for focusing on a weapon that can actually deter, but those who want to proclaim the power of the conventional forces like jets, tanks and ships are dreaming.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-47154060403657526262011-09-29T16:14:03.301-04:002011-09-29T16:14:03.301-04:00Go and read a book before you talk rubbish!
IRGCN ...Go and read a book before you talk rubbish!<br />IRGCN midget submarines and missiles wont be able to touch let alone destroy US ships while parked in the Indian Ocean and sad to say giving a pounding to the IRGCN IRIAF !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-88145923462715272942011-09-29T15:29:15.087-04:002011-09-29T15:29:15.087-04:00Anon 1:58
Iran doesn't have very many midget ...Anon 1:58<br /><br />Iran doesn't have very many midget subs and the UDNavy has many more full-sized subs and plenty of warships with much, much better weapons.<br /><br />nowhere near as good AND nowhere near as many in the water and in the air when Iran has to try to defend its territory means that Iran is going to lose very badly and very quickly.<br /><br />This isn't going to be anything like Lebanon because the US isn't going to have to worry about hitting civilians and isn't going to be using ground troops until Iran's defenses have been destroyed.<br /><br />Whatever the regime is telling its supporters is not to be believed. After two weeks, there might be 200 dead Americans and tens of thousands of Iranian dead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-84716140870762025802011-09-29T13:58:29.637-04:002011-09-29T13:58:29.637-04:00Now if a poorly equipped midget sub can sink a mod...<i>Now if a poorly equipped midget sub can sink a modestly equipped corvette,</i><br /><br />Yes Iran'c primitive missile was able to hit and destroy the Israel'sw corvette bristling with the latest radar and all other gadgets. Remember during the last Lebanese war!<br /><br />Or come to think Hezbollah primitive rocket launchers destroying the mighty Israel un-destructible tanks.!<br /><br />Tha'ts the promlem over reliance on technology, cannot even defeat some backwards Afghans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-13621715464461464612011-09-29T06:51:13.035-04:002011-09-29T06:51:13.035-04:00TLAM Strike.
I agree with your analysis of the cap...TLAM Strike.<br />I agree with your analysis of the capabilities of the US Navy.<br />However it is and will always be Persian Gulf. There has never been an Arabian Gulf.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-45479998081869403642011-09-29T04:06:41.851-04:002011-09-29T04:06:41.851-04:00Is this Commander the same comedian that said Iran...Is this Commander the same comedian that said Iran will send it's ships to the American coast?<br />They have made Iran into a laughing stock the jokers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-17052513697329953672011-09-28T14:58:56.077-04:002011-09-28T14:58:56.077-04:00...you served until 1984???...okay so u must be up......you served until 1984???...okay so u must be uptodate... ;-) man i think the IRCG was very bad to you because you was from shah time as you have said by your own...its not very useful to note that you have served when its nearly 30 years over...this is not very helpful for us...<br /><br />sorry but it sounds like you have served until last month...<br /><br />the only mistake iran is doing is to show US its capacity TO MUCH...<br /><br />by the way...iran can learn a lot of lybian restistant and how US and NATO are acting in this war...and i think they are monitoring this very exactly...<br /><br />Mr. Uskowi u are in the TOP 10 of Iran Sites ( for me )...but the place i will keep secret :-)<br />Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-61097992312195406062011-09-28T07:24:10.029-04:002011-09-28T07:24:10.029-04:00TLAM Strike
Thanks for your contribution regardin...TLAM Strike<br /><br />Thanks for your contribution regarding US navy capabilities.<br />It just mystifies me how some people believe that by owning a few gun boats armed with anti ship missiles and midget submarines plus some anti ship coastal missiles they can challenge a countries armed forces that was built to destroy the mighty Soviet Union.<br />This kind of uneducated attitude exists in the IRGC or IRGCN.<br />Unfortunately our country is been run by a bunch of ex fruit market stall holders who have become "Generals" without any officer training just because during the Iran Iraq war they obeyed the mullahs tantrums to capture a hill or two or to send poor kids over mines. Basically just point straight ahead and hope for the best !<br />This is how the IRGC "Generals" received their tin foil stars.<br />Meanwhile the real soldiers that went to officer school were treated like idiots and not promoted and kept on lower pay because they knew the realities and loved their country and despised the mullahs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5169130203475264933.post-84792541600610521822011-09-28T00:57:47.409-04:002011-09-28T00:57:47.409-04:00Scythian,
you just have no idea at all of the pow...Scythian,<br /><br />you just have no idea at all of the power of the US military. Iran has many brave men, and they fought for long and hard years against an Iraqi military that was savaged by the USA and driven out of Kuwait in 100 hours....with tens of thousands of iraqis killed and 75,000 wounded.<br /><br />US military deaths were about 400.........mostly killed in accidents with less than 200 dead from Iraqi fire.<br /><br /><br />In 2003, with a smaller force, the US invaded Iraq and took over the country in 5 weeks with losses of less than150 killed in action.<br /><br />Iran can not defend itself from the US in the unfortunate event that war breaks out between the two countries.<br /><br />Iran has a tiny navy of no power and no range and an air force that is too small and weak to even send up against the US air force.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com